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Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.04.29 22:51:00 - [1] I would like to confirm I will underwrite this with 1.5B of current cash holdings. In addition I am confirming that should the need arise Merotech owned and governed by Ji Sama holds a claim in my current assets of 2.5B as seen in earlier notary post. In conclusion I am confirming that SCS is servicing this IPO's rather extensive needs, and will upon conclusion have a number part of the service price paid in BSHARES.(amount undetermined at present moment) PS: Wishing you clear skies ahead on your endeavours Ji Sama - Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways. Feed your Brain: Innovation Thread
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.04.30 23:48:00 - [2] In to confirm I have recieved the 49.000 TMP shares. Awaiting Audit and recieving the complete ledger of shareholders. - Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways. Feed your Brain: Innovation Thread
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.05.01 15:36:00 - [3] Originally by: Bonhomme Carnaval What, you're saying Shar the troll is controlled by his emotions instead of controlling them?! How surprising! And what a great characteristic for an auditor... It goes well with his newfound unreliability! Disclaimer : My opinion is based on unverified information and represents the opinion of your entire corp and alliance. A bit of patience might be in order, before throwing around these things. Sounds to me like RL is the culprit and the rather complex and big account number of Ji Sama. When the relevant parties have talked about these things with Ji to make the tasks a bit simpler I am sure it will be sorted out. I can offer to help w security and account confirmation on Ji Sama less active characters if needed. I can not do the important ones, since I could be accused as biased having JI Sama as a client in this endeavor. @ Kazzac and Shar; Let me know if I can be of assistence in clearing the audit workload. - Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways. Feed your Brain: Innovation Thread
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.05.02 02:17:00 - [4] Unofficial and preliminary findings of SCS temp psw access. I was granted access to all Ji Sama's 7 disclosed accounts. In All I have looked through a total of 18 characters out of the 21 slots possible. Characters I can confirm the list of characters mentioned in Ji Sama's earlier post. Of these none of them have any notable access or values of importance in this audit. All the relevant characters appears to be on Ji Samas main account. security It was clear that even the alts were not granted full access to TMP assets. Global wallet access was held by 6 characters, 4 from Ji Samas accounts and 2 from his RL friend mentioned as "hit by truck" backup. Going through the TMP current assets I found a few questions regarding hangar access, that I will have Ji comment on. The security access was not that tough considering the relative small corp of a total 32 members. (fits on one page in corp administration) Assets At the time of access there was liquid assets of about 5B and 3B in market sell and buy orders. A quick look also confirmed to me the approximated 2B in contracts. Since this was only an on location check, I can not confirm the total values of current items values. Nor can I confirm the assets under construction, nor the Investments. For these you have to wait for the pending actual audit. Ji Sama's Value Doing a quick search on character trade I found it relevant to mention that skillpoint value of the character would imo be an estimate of around 2-3B isk. SCS confirmed Assets Confirmed 12-14B Add to this the POS estimated at 5B (Bobby or the Audit can confirm this estimate) Keyser Kahn Underwriting with 3B, and myself personally for 4B. Thats totalling approx 24B Security evaluation conclusion Since Ji Sama has disclosed full access to all his 7 accounts, his personal RL information (which I can personally confirm for what that is worth), his tight and limited access control to his corp assets, I must conclude that his opened and disclosed more than can be demanded. Since Ji has involved himself rather heavy in secondary markets network, I would find it stupid for him to cut and run with the IPO cash, since his net value is on par with what he is trying to obtain in liquidity, and his reputation value added to that would make this compete with Armoured Cs scam. Tha ofc is my personal view. The future earnings could then be questioned. I could tell from transactions that at elast Ji knows how to make his living, his short time in game and high NAV would also go far to support this. Just on his current NAV he would be able to sacrifice the promised ROI for at least 10 months before hitting red numbers. I also took the time to try and see if any of the disclosed alts had posting history, I only found the 3 main characters mentioned had posting history. Childeric III Antiquarian Ji Sama Note: This is not an actual audit, its a preliminary security evaluation of Ji Sama and the IPO he is offering. Nothing is 100% sure in EVE, but considering the work already put in this I would find it highly unlikely its a big elaborate scam. - Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways. Feed your Brain: Innovation Thread
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.05.03 16:11:00 - [5] There have been a bit of trouble getting the external audit handled. Since the number of trusted auditors are limited to a total of less than 10. In order to get this deal partially concluded I am suggesting the following: As broker for TMP I will recieve the payments in full, that means I will hold the total raised liquidity, and will then distribute the stocks according to the list. As a security I will freeze 50% of the assets till the external audit is ready. Please make sure when you transfer to mark the transfer w TMP IPO somehow. For larger amounts I would like to suggest you consider in convo confirmation. I will have the channel TMP IPO open for this purpose. - Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways. Feed your Brain: Innovation Thread
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.05.03 20:51:00 - [6] Confirming transfer and received payments. Total 4.675 B isk worth of shares distributed. Marcus Baltar 200 BSHARES Brett Frost 400 BSHARES TastyTreat 1000 BSHARES Guildnavigator 450 BSHARES 50 ASHARES Victoria Akmea 100 BSHARES "undisclosed" 2000 BSHARES and 4250 "undisclosed" ASHARES The undisclosed will be public when all is concluded and the "in street name" or public named is handled. - Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways. Feed your Brain: Innovation Thread
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.05.05 03:42:00 - [7] Originally by: Ricdic Forgive me if this is incorrect as I haven't been as active here as normal. But did you guys spend the past 6 pages drilling Ji Sama about all different possible ways the plan could fail, risk assessment etc? Then, after all this drilling on Ji Sama you wire billions of isk to Caleb? Again, forgive me if this is incorrect but I don't believe Caleb has ever run a public ipo/bond or been entrusted with public funds. If this is correct, then you guys have just completely missed the biggest security risk of them all. Caleb only showed up in MD a few months back. Whilst his posts have been plentiful were they worth 24 billion isk? Tell me I am missing something here and you guys didn't just take a giant risk after all that crap in pages 1-6 Thanks for the vote of confidence ric. I believe a few around the game knows that I care little for actual isk. My sole motivation in the game is the community. Going through my history you will find that I did not just show up. I returned from RL caused break. No I have never worked anything like this. Back when I was around in the pre Hexxx era there wasnt much around and much maturity in the secondary markets. Also I was more focused on internal corp management back then. - Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways. Feed your Brain: Innovation Thread
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.05.05 13:09:00 - [8] Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 05/05/2009 11:30:17 Originally by: Ricdic I really don't want to screw with Caleb because I personally think he is ok [...] Caleb seems to be the idealistic type with a far too bigger mouth to handle scamming on top of it. Ji on the other hand is a walking talking liability. Now that my business with Ji Sama has been completed I might provide an unbiased evaluation of this offering. If I'm not too lazy that is. Uhh Thank you... (I think) I am well aware there is a risk that the "intimacy" the lounge brings can make some jump the gun on high risk investments. To that I have to say I hope the lounge can also be a source to make people understand these risks. - Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways. Feed your Brain: Innovation Thread
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.05.08 06:15:00 - [9] As mentioned earlier please use the ingame channel TMP IPO if you need to contact me. The buyback is open but since confirmation of the transfer can take a bit of time, please have patience in these cases. Confirmed Bad Bobby buyback, 6000 BSHARES TastyTreat sold 250 BSHARES to Arsiiel Please dont trade between each other till the IPO is concluded. Any transactions between characters is hard to track and makes it harder to work the ledger. Please use the sellers buyback, and buyers order their shares in this thread. Note: Ji Sama is out of office till sunday. This means I cant reach him atm. I will be available to answer questions to the extend of my knowledge. Current BSHARES : 9600 Current funds: 19,525 B isk. - Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways. Feed your Brain: Innovation Thread
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.05.08 07:26:00 - [10] @TastyTreat. Yes that was post IPO conclusion. As it stands now this is likely to change a bit. There will be buyback at 100% till the IPO is concluded. Basically a full cancellation option. Once the external audit is finished and the remaining shares distributed the Shares are live and can be traded accordingly. More detail on this will be posted at finalizing. and then there will be cake. - Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways. Feed your Brain: Innovation Thread
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.05.08 19:56:00 - [11] @Cosmoray. SCS and in this case I am acting as a third party broker. TMP needs confirmed securities confirmed, and current assets and history confirmed. I think basically all the needed information is all in the above. Reason I am receiving the isk is exactly because audit is not done yet. This way the reservations and distribution of shares can be handled, and the isk is frozen until TMP and Ji Sama has the auditors confirmation. The stocks should not be traded until the IPO is concluded, because until then TMP stocks dont have the value. I am not launching the IPO, because I am not the client I am the broker. I dont see how my assets need an audit for acting as a broker. My net value and my trust has nothing to do with each other, it no concern of the investors if I have 100M or 100B isk to my name. And I fail to see how this is even close to a scam IPO, since there is already almost 100% coverage in security prior to any audit. The only need for the audit as things stand is to validate TMP trade history and his current passive assets ready for profit making. Even though this IPO has suffered a rather bad timing, and hit a few bumps, all in all I would say its already more then safe, the only thing is whether TMP business plan holds up and can generate the promised 7% monthly yield. This however isnt improved by keeping the assets frozen. I hope Ji Sama will have gotten hold of a willing auditor when he returns this sunday. I hope that clears things up a bit.. - Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways. Feed your Brain: Innovation Thread
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.05.09 09:14:00 - [12] @Bad Bobby Thanks for the clean tone, and constructive criticism. I have admit that basically all your statements are correct. I do however not entirely agree with all the conclusions. If the questions and attacks to this IPO was mainly from investors I would, but the case is that the voiced opposition is mainly from non investors. Since their money arent at risk I dont see why they need to voice their concerns in a way that makes it seem like every new IPO is an attempted scam. I agree there is a need for testing the legitimacy of a new business proposal in the secondary markets, but there is a thing called benefit of the doubt. Also I personally think this IPO has gone above and beyond in trying to make the investors feel safe. The fact that I am brokering the deal and holding the funds is just one of these attempts to share the risk, and make sure the earlier doubts in Ji Sama could be alliviated. Whether or not I am trusted enough for that should be the investors and Ji Samas business and not outsiders yelling "Scammer" at everyone entering the MD. And no I am not that new to the MD, although I rejoined the game recently. Maybe my history dont grant me a card blanche on trust, but at least a spotless and scamless track record since 14 days after game launch should count for something. The only dirt you could find on me in here and in EVE in general is my tendencies to voice opinions. All that be as it may, I am glad you voiced the concerns in a way that actually made sense, and I hope those reading it make up their own mind in these matters and judge the entire thread before jumping to any conclusions. - Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways. Feed your Brain: Innovation Thread
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.05.09 20:22:00 - [13] Confirming I will get a hold of Kazzac and arrange the audit. - Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways. Feed your Brain: Innovation Thread
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.05.10 16:28:00 - [14] A small update on the SHARES. 40400 SHARES have been distributed, and payment have been recieved. The current total: 20.2 B isk. There is 4100 reserved Leaving 4500 SHARES left for reservations. Any questions can be asked in the ingame channel "TMP IPO" - Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways. Feed your Brain: Innovation Thread
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.05.11 08:11:00 - [15] Edited by: Caleb Ayrania on 11/05/2009 08:11:25 Confirming reservation of 1000 SHARES Biruni Khan Leaving 3500 SHARES. - Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways. Feed your Brain: Innovation Thread
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.05.12 11:34:00 - [16] No minimum.. Noting reservation, stocks are almost all gone. Audit is forthcoming asap. expecting the report from Brock Nelson soon(tm) - Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways. Feed your Brain: Innovation Thread
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.05.12 13:44:00 - [17] All SHARES are sold now. Hold further reservation till the current ones are transferred or cancelled. - Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways. Feed your Brain: Innovation Thread
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.05.13 19:31:00 - [18] 42600 SHARES distributed. Reservations pending processing 6400 Isk transfered to Ji Sama totalling 21.3 Billion Any SHARES left will be for sale at 100% or highest bidder when reservation list is concluded. - Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways. Feed your Brain: Innovation Thread
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.05.14 15:26:00 - [19] Just wanted a chance to explain why I released the funds as fast as I did. The reason for freezing the assets was to secure the investors for any scams or wrong numbers disclosed by Ji Sama initially. This was the security offered by the broker. Thus I ofc waited for the conclusive audit report, to see if there was any reasons for me not to release the funds. Since everything looked nice and no alarms where set of I opted to release the funds to TMP, so they could start working and not loose further earnings due to the lack of assets. The red flag raised was concerning Merotech, since this is an affiliate business of Ji Samas's I would ofc expect any cross comapny business to be posted if and when needed. As far as I was informed Merotech is for future endeavours in the secondary market, but with no noteworthy activity atm. In conclusion had there been a more valid reason to keep the funds frozen for investor buyback, ofc I would have kept that window open longer. I believe granting TMP the funds to start earning the money for the investors was a better choice. - Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways. Feed your Brain: Innovation Thread
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.05.14 17:45:00 - [20] This IPO have been rather victim to some unforeseen issues. The thing with developing a brokerage service is supposedly to streamline and speed up the process, and to make it possible for the issuer to save some time and work. I think that is rather obvious in the "service" part of the name. In addition it is supposed to add a level of security in case of a faulty offering, and a reason to suspect a scam or a lack of ability to generate the suggested profit and payouts. In this IPO the service have hammered into quite a few walls, walls that should not normally be an issue. Auditor problems being among the main problems. All that aside I see some rather interesting developments in the direction of the secondary markets with what is on the horizon. More streamlined services and consulting options. SCS and EVE-FAS, and ofc the already existing line of parties, dbank, ebank, real time exchange etc. With the coming ebank exchange service all these different aspects will have the possibility to bring a lot of interesting new opertunities and business to the New Eden Economy. That is my personal conclusion to this bumpy IPO ride. I hope I am not the only one with such naive eyes on the events. - Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways. Feed your Brain: Innovation Thread
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.05.15 03:00:00 - [21] Ok getting a bit tired of the Caleb scammer plug ... If anyone had done a search on me the mere age and amount of time and the content of posts should be enough to show that I am not the liability here. I might have been away a while, and true the account might have been taken over by someone else, but could we get off that claim soon? I offered Ji Sama what little rep(memory) I had to avoid the rather harsh climate in here, and initially I had no idea if Ji was actually a scammer, so I found the broker idea more than just an addition of risk, but rather a way to help both Ji Sama and in case he was not legit help the community of investors. Why this is being called a flawed system I dont understand. In any case just because I went on a break dont make me a new kid, and as far as I see it there was no sign saying new ideas couldnt be added to the MD and secondary market. Oh and back WAY BACK WHEN .. I actually was part of some of the first successful secondary market businesses Bazaar (non scc loot shop, and related projects) Not that it means much any more, but calling me newcomer and potential scammer is getting on my nerves, especially considering some of the things I have added and worked on the last 5-6 months. - Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways. Feed your Brain: Innovation Thread
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.06.07 04:56:00 - [22] My real life bank account says that I am.. so the ambiguity is complete.. - Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways. Feed your Brain: Innovation Thread

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